a reporter from cnn claims to have had the emails read to her and claims they were read by investigators to discovered them in the university's investigation of itself which, by the way, is conducted by the former director of f.b.i., louie free, who is no doubt conducting a thorough investigation. the fact he has these means they'll get in the hands of the lawyers of the people suing penn state, which will make those cases more expensive for penn state. they'll not resist the lawsuit or allow these cases to go to trial. it's going to pay a tremendous amount of money so the cases will go away. that may not help with the ncaa. >> and judge, i only have a few seconds left but if this is found to be an institution wide problem, could this jeopardize the athletic program? >> absolutely. it could have profound jeopardy to the athletic program and that would have long term jeopardy to the university, which relies for its athletic program for a substantial portion of the money that it spends to operate the university every year. >> yeah, football controls a lot of things there. good to see you,